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Have Math searches moved to fall? Job Search

By dkung
Posted Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 07:29:58 AM PDT
As recently as 10 years ago, you never would have heard of a college or university going finishing a job search before the New Year. There were many advantages to this sort of system for both sides of the interview table.

Word on the street is that times are changing. More below the fold...

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Several friends have now completed their job searches even before the Joint Meetings have begun. What does that mean for applicants? What does it mean for schools looking to hire? It's been a while now since I sat on the other side of the table, but one thing seems rather symmetric. The Joint Meetings provide an opportunity feel out if a particular job-candidate pairing is a reasonable fit. From both sides I have had that "This isn't going to work out." feeling in the first ten minutes of an interview. And sometimes this happened despite everything looking good on paper.

So with more schools moving up their searches, it makes me wonder if those poor-fits aren't going to be discovered until committees and candidates meet on campus. That seems like a huge waste of time (on both sides) and money (on the school's side). It potentially means that schools and hires won't be ideally matched (OK, I realize that the current algorithm doesn't do that either, but it might be closer.)

Of course, from the perspective of each school, moving their search up is a great idea. They get a chance to woo their top candidates before other schools even meet them.

We've seen exactly this sort of greedy-calendar-creep in other arenas (Iowans are sitting down to caucus tonight, 10 months before the actual Presidential election and two weeks before they did in the last cycle.) I hope that in both cases, cooler heads eventually prevail and we return to a more reasonable calendar.

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by halewis on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 10:41:10 PM PDT

Interesting -- we're doing a search this year and to our surprise noticed this same trend, which we hadn't seen with our previous searches (3 and 5 years ago).

I will say, though, that I'm not sure it's always a great idea for individual schools. If the school is a candidate's first choice then it does work out well for everyone [even the competing schools, because it's better to find out earlier than later that a candidate has taken another job], but if the school is a second or third choice, the candidate has to weigh taking that job over the possibility of getting a more suitable job. That happens anyway, of course, but at least with interviews that happen in January instead of December candidates have more of an idea of where they stand with other schools and can make a more informed decision. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in years to come!



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