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Panel on Tenure and Promotion: You know you want it. Career

By kroth
from the notes on panels department
Posted Thu Jan 24, 2008 at 07:42:53 AM PDT
The panel "Tenure (and Promotion): You know you want it" was on the Sunday of the Joint Math Meetings (Jan 6) at 9 a.m.
Panelists were:
Steven Krantz, American Institute of Mathematics
Mike Orrison, Harvey Mudd College
Kate McGiveny, Shippensburg University


The panel was organized by James Hamblin, Shippensburg University and Kim Roth, Juniata College.
Henry Escaudro, Juniata College, took notes on the panel which you can read in the full story.

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Tenure (and Promotion) - you know you want it
Room 6E, SDCC

Panel:
Steven Krantz (American Institute of Mathematics),
Michael Orrision (Harvey Mudd College),
Katherine McGivney (Shippensburg University)

Organizer: Kimberly Roth (Juniata College), James Hamblin (Shippensburg)



Michael Orrison:
Coming from the liberal arts college setting.

Preparation:
Find "pulse" of the department and college - it is important to be part of the community.
Expectation:
HMC hires people with the expectation that one would get tenure, faculty notebook is taken seriously, one has the opportunity to have a positive impact on the curriculum.
Find a niche, become indispensable, set goals (short-term and long-term).


Katherine McGivney:
Coming from the state university setting.
Evaluation is based on teaching, scholarly growth, service.
Tenure and promotion is separate.
Balance is key (in the different areas of evaluation).
Start with your department in your first year, then go out be involved in university-wide committees and activities.
Organize your materials for promotion.
Know the rules for promotion and tenure.
Seek advise from colleagues (even from other disciplines).



Steven Krantz:
Coming from a research institution.
Talked about the tenure document.
Outside letters are important (in a research institution); the letters are expected to be detailed
Teaching is also valued in a research institution.
Talked about the details of the tenure process in a research institution.
It would be helpful if you can have a senior colleague mentor you.


Questions and Answers:
How much does student evaluation counts? A lot (Katherine); colleagues compare their evaluations another (Michael); deans take this seriously, people are aware of the possible anomalies (Steven).
How much weight does community service has? In a liberal arts college, it is a signal that you are an engaged scholar (Michael); for tenure, community service is positive but not a lot in a research institution, however, for promotion, it is (Steven).
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[new] What About Community Colleges? (none / 0) (#1)
by Jonny77889 on Wed Feb 13, 2008 at 04:51:30 PM PDT

What about promotion and tenure at community colleges? Some of us here may wish to teach at a community college instead (or be forced to because we want to teach but because of a failed PhD attempt, like it is in my case). This answer regarding community colleges would be useful for us. My guess is that it is similar to how it works at liberal arts colleges, but I could be wrong. And how is "community service" defined? What can a mathematician do that the community as a whole would appreciate and would still be relevant to the mathematician's job?



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