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What can you do with a degree in mathematics? Undergrad Life

By jvano
Posted Fri Jan 23, 2004 at 06:03:50 PM PDT
Ever wanted to know what all of your options are for careers with your math degree? At the Joint Mathematics Meetings in Phoenix [1/10/2004] the YMN and MAA hosted a panel entitled "What can you do with a degree in mathematics?" at which we addressed some of the options that are avaliable from industry to grad school and other things in between. In the following story we present a summary of this panel discussion and invite our readers to continue the discussion in the comments!

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We had four panelists:
  • David Hammett, chair of mathematics at Oakwood School, a private secondary school
  • Patrick Mccray, (until recently) a Systems Project Leader for Pfizer
  • Bob Wilson, professor at University of Wisconsin at Madison
  • Andrew Sterrett, editor of 101 Careers in Mathematics
Our moderator was Kim Roth, professor at Wheeling Jesuit University. The panel was organized YMN board members John Vano, University of Wisconsin at Madison, Michael Lang, Bradley University, and Kim Roth.
There were over 67 people in attendance!

For each person there is an intro followed by a summary of what they talked about.

David Hammett

David is the department chair of mathematics at Oakwood School a private secondary school in North Hollywood, California. He was formerly a public school in Goergia. He has been the mathemataical consultant for several game shows including Greed, Weakest Link, and Whammy: The all new Press Your Luck.

Some Advantages of Private School Teaching

  • Certification/Credentials not necessarily required
  • Freedom to design curriculum
  • Smaller class size
  • Motivated students

Important Qualities for (Private) School Teaching

  • Experience - any type of experience teaching/working with junior high/high school kids (e.g. tutoring).
  • Willingness - to teach what classes need to be taught.
  • Improvisation - the ability to change a lesson plan mid stream when you are faced with a room of blank looks.
  • People Skills - to deal with students and their parents.

Patrick McCray

Patrick has a B.S., M.S. and Ph.D. in mathematics all from Illinois Institute of Technology. He was an instructor at North Park College for 3 years. He was until recently a Systems Project Leader for Pfizer and is listed in 101 Careers in Mathematics. When he started as a senior systems Applications Programmers at Searle, he moved up in ranks as the company changed names from Searle to Monsanto to Pharmacia and lastly to Pfizer. He is a memeber of the AWM, SIAM, AMS, and the MAA. He particpates in many activites with them; for the AMS he has been a short course Committee chair, for the MAA he has been a governor, CMOA chair, chair of the Illinois section, and newletter editor for the Illinois section. Currently he serves on the CUPM committee and has helped with their short course.

What jobs are out there?

  • Statistics, Market Research
  • Computing
    • hardware / software
    • development -> support
  • Finance, Insurance
  • CPA
  • Actuary

How do I get them??

Develop skills in:

  • Intended application area
    • course, minor, major
    • internship
  • Mathematical reasoning
    • hard courses
    • projects, capstone
  • Communication/Teamwork
    • Read, write, listen, speak
  • Job Finding
  • CONNECT YOUR PASSIONS WITH THEIR BURNING NEED!

Bob Wilson

In his own words, Bob can't hold a job (or modesty aside, he as held several different types of jobs). He taught at a small liberal college, has done research, worked in silicon valley, been a consultant, been a disc jockey, driven a race car and currently is a professor at University of Wisconsin Madison.

Some not so evident job possibilities:

  • Combine some features: e.g. teach at college/university, but do research as a consultant
  • Teach, but in industry
  • Manage mathematical programs in a government or industrial organization
  • Communicate mathematics, at a publisher or a professional organization
  • Communicate and advise about mathematics, to a government official or agency

Andrew Sterrett

Andrew is a professor emeritus from Dennison. He worked at the MAA headquarters after retiring from Dennison, He is the editor of 101 Careers in Mathematics, a book detailing careers of many mathematics majors across many fields, which is currently in its second edition.

Andrew described many jobs in mathematics detailed in his book and echoed the comments about the need for communcation and other skills the other panelists recommended. Below is a list of people in different types of math related jobs that Andrew included in his handout. (B =Bachelor's Degree, M=Master's Degree, D=Doctoral Degree)

Mathematics Jobs!

Environment

  • Sandra Winklers, Research Scientist, Ford Motor Company, B
  • Donna Lawson, Economist, NOAA, M
  • Kay King, Environmental Math, Theta Tech, M
  • Jerry Highfill, Math Statistician, Environmental Protection Lab, M
  • Charles Hadlock, Environmental Consultant, Ad Little, D
  • Sue Waldman, Mathematician Dept Agriculture, M
  • Allison Delong, Research Associate, University of Rhode Island, D
  • Christopher Legault, Fishery Biologist, NOAA Fishery, D

Airlines/transportation

  • Douglas Gray, Senior Consultant, American Airlines, M
  • Mark Reynolds, Operations Research Analyst, US Airways, M
  • Sara Yeary, Systems Analyst, Lockheed Martian, B
  • Yawa Duse-Anthony, Senior Associate, KKO & Assoc, M
  • Scott Elliott, Operations Research Analyst, FedEx, M

Space

  • Brian Repp, Data Math Analyst, Bendix Eng, B
  • James Cooley, Aerospace Math, NASA Goddard, M
  • Jennifer McLean, Tech I Staff, Jet Propulsion Lab, B
  • Samson Cheung, Research Scientist, NASA Ames, D
  • Cora Carmody, Systems Engineer, PRC Inc, M

Statistics

  • Susan Devlin, Measurements Research, Bellcore, M
  • Christine Rutch, Assoc Statistician, Air Products, B
  • Elizabeth Sweet, Math Statistician, Census, B
  • Jill Tolle, Statistician, IMS America, M
  • Lisa Tonder, Statistician, Medtronic, M
  • Denise Johnston, Statistician, Boeing, D
  • Mike Lieber, Biostatistician, C Clinic, M
  • Martha Prenger, Associate Scientist, P&G, M

Inventory/Marketing

  • Rol Fessenden, Inventory Strategist, L.L. Bean, B
  • Karen Kneisel, Project Mgr, Otis Elevator, B
  • Debra Taufen, Marketing Mgr, IBM, B
  • Anitra Duckett, Educ Markets Mgr, Texas Instruments, B
  • Martha Weeks, Marketing Consultant, Self (HP), B
  • Carol Mandell, Market Researcher, Corp Software, B
  • Mary Cooney, Mathematics Editor, Simon/Schuster
  • Jilie Scarpa, Math Protuct Mgr, Prentice Hall, M

Large Laboratories

  • Ruth Gonzalez, Exxon Production Research, D
  • Mary Hesselgrave, Lucent Technology, D
  • Juan Meza, Sandia National Laboratories, D
  • Patrick McCray, G.D. Searle, D
  • Bonita Saunders, National Institute of Standards & Technology, D
  • Michael Weiss, Department of Agriculture, D

Academic, with consulting

  • Charles Hadlock, Bethley College
  • Carl Harris, George Mason University
  • Margaret Brandeau, Stanford University
  • Richard Jarvinen, Winona State University
  • Michael Monticino, University of North Texas

Computer Science

  • Darcey Barnett, Computer Scientist, NIST, B
  • Cherryl Beeman, Electronic Commerce, Kodiak Group, B
  • Ron Bousquet, R&D Project Mgr, HP, M
  • Jack Cassidy, Engineer Scientist, HP, B
  • Judith Chapman, Software Engineer, Harris Sci Cal, M
  • Jeff Cooper, Tech Development, PH Glatfelter, M
  • Marcia Kastner, Research Scientist, Akamai Tech, D
  • Kimberly Kuntz, Systems Engineer, EDS, M
  • Laura Readdy, Systems Engineer, EDS, B
  • Michael Murray, JAVA Developer, IBM, M
  • Fred Taverner, Systems Engineer, Sun Microcomputers, M
  • Rodney Wallace, Systems Analyst, IBM, M
  • Benjamin Weiss, Imaging Scientist, Meta Creation, B

References

  • 101 Careers in Mathematics, Second Edition
    Andrew Sterrett, Editor
  • She Does Math: Real-Life Problems from Women on the Job
    Marla Parker, Editor
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What can you do with a degree in mathematics? | 11 comments (11 topical, 0 hidden)
[new] Career paths (none / 0) (#3)
by overconvergent on Fri Jan 23, 2004 at 12:02:22 PM PDT

One of my advisor's students is now working at one of the Really Big accountancy firms; another is temping, and I have a postdoc at a research university.

We're his first three students, so I claim we have a fairly broad spread of career paths.



[new] SIAM Handout (none / 0) (#4)
by jvano on Fri Jan 23, 2004 at 04:06:57 PM PDT

At the panel, the Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics (aka SIAM) had a booklet on careers in applied mathematics (which is also avaliable on their webpage).



[new] Examples of the most "far out" jobs (none / 0) (#5)
by jvano on Fri Jan 23, 2004 at 04:08:50 PM PDT

Q: What are examples of the most "far out" jobs for mathematicians?

A: (Andrew Sterrett) Banks, lawyers, etc...



[new] Where do you look for these jobs? (none / 0) (#6)
by jvano on Fri Jan 23, 2004 at 04:10:42 PM PDT

Q: Where do you go to look for these jobs?

A: (Patrick Mccray) Probably not in the newspaper. Network at places like Joint Meetings.

A: (Andrew Sterrett) Most companies don't know they need Mathematicians so look closely at job description to decide if you can fit the job descirption whether they are looking for a math major or not, also when companies have campus interviews.

Comment From Audience: The National Security Agency (NSA) hires greatest number of Mathematicians.



[new] my situation (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous Hero on Sun Jul 10, 2005 at 10:16:38 AM PDT

I will be beginning my second year of law school this upcoming fall and have been doing some serious thinking about getting a PhD in mathematics. My background in math is relatively weak considering that I am wanting to do a PhD (I have a minor). However, what separates me from the next guy is that I have a fairly strong aptitude for math. The natural question is of course, why do I want to do this. Well, I've always enjoyed mathematics and have felt bad that I decided to major in business as an undergrad rather than something challenging like math. Mathematics is the key to understanding things in our world; it is perhaps the backbone to other sciences. I like solving problems and thinking about difficult issues. After having studied law for one year I've begun to realize that it is often very arbitrary and lacks the element of "discovery" that is a characteristic of fields like math. Law doesn't seem to "quench the soul" like mathematics does. Don't get me wrong, I think law is interesting and plan on completing the degree, but I don't see myself being an attorney my whole life. I believe mathematics will afford me the opportunity to branch out in other areas (like economics, finance, etc...). I am wondering if anyone has any thoughts, advice, suggestions, or comments about my situation. I am in need of some guidance. Thank you.



[new] Interesting (none / 0) (#13)
by Rob H on Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 02:38:24 AM PDT

This sounds like it was a really interesting panel. I would especially have liked to listen to Patrick McCray myself. It's interesting to read about all the opportunities. I haven't thought of even half of them before.
Rob, Programmer currently working on the breast enlargement project.


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