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Discrimination at [name removed] University Job Search

By mehmath
Posted Wed Jun 25, 2003 at 04:20:31 PM PDT
I am a new Ph.D. in mathematics and have been looking for a job in college teaching. I was invited for a campus interview to [name removed] University. The interview went really well and I got excellent feedbacks from the search committee during my entire visit. Even though I was one of the top candidates for one of the positions, I was definitely discriminated against my nationality and consequently not offered the job. I have contacted the Affirmative Action Office of [name removed] University, but no answer so far. I just do not know what else to do about this terrible incident. I would really appreciate if anybody helps me on this issue or give me some directions. Sincerely.

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[new] On discrimination... (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by Anonymous Hero on Wed Jul 02, 2003 at 01:49:20 PM PDT

By contacting the Affirmative Action Office of the university, you have made the correct first step. This is the only official avenue for grievance in the case of job searches failed due to discrimination. For any more active response than you've already seen, you'll need to file a lawsuit against the institution--which is an emotionally and monetarily costly endeavor.

Before doing anything so drastic, consider getting more information about the results of the search, in general. The department head should fill you in on some of the reasons that you were not hired. You should approach him/her in a nonconfrontational manner in order to make the discussion useful. Take the comments to heart and consider them in your future job searches.

I echo jvano in asking you to honestly appraise the situation. We should all be very careful when slinging around accusations of discrimination. We are not all entitled to a job just because we want one; employers hire at their discretion and, hopefully, in the best interest of their institutions.



[new] Discrimination vs "Sour Grapes"? (none / 0) (#1)
by jvano on Wed Jun 25, 2003 at 04:08:54 PM PDT

Now I don't intend to sound hostile here, but you say that you were "definitely" discriminated based on your nationality and I'm curious what type of evidence you have regarding this very serious claim?

An even biger question: In general, what does it take to prove such a of claim discrimination? How does one establish that an applicant has experienced discrimination and is not just bringing up "sour grapes" after not get an offer?

The whole job application/interview process is a complex system and the reason for a hiring decision defiantly goes beyond a good site visit (in fact, because site visits are usually only given to top candidates one would hope that the site visits for ALL candidates go very well). Since it is so complex, it's hard (if not impossible) to turn it into something that is algorithmic. However, if the system is not algorithmic and there is this vague fuzziness to it, how does one determine if an unfair prejudice occurs? A lot depends on who the hiring committee feels will be a "good fit" for the position. But how does one establish if factors such as sex, race, sexual orientation, religion, nationality, etc unfairly enter into this decision?

Its interesting that the recent Supreme court decision regarding affirmative action at Michigan both allowed for race to be used as a factor in admission decisions, but at the same time shot down using race in a point based (algorithmic) system.

So how does one draw the line? Just want kind of evidence distinguishes "sour grapes" from illegal discrimination?



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